Believers of RAPTURE , How does your belief that 2012 is the end of days fit into your rapture.?

The Bible mentions nothing about the year 2102. upon examining all the end times prophecies it looks like life in this world is about to get real nasty. that would mean things are going to be even worse by the end of 2012. But the entire course of events will take seven years to play out, so 2012 will be a cake walk compared to what's to come.

Of course none of this will affect the believer since God has promised to keep us from the time and place of His coming wrath. We'll spend those seven years in heaven at the wedding feast of the Lamb and then we'll receive our crowns at the Bema Seat Judgement. Finally, we'll accompany Jesus when he returns in glory. For us, it's all good.

It doesn't concern me. 2012 doesn't fit into the rapture at all. the 2012 theory is Myan, not Christian. No man knows when the end of days will come, and if man makes those claims they are a fraud.

I am so fed up of all the rubbish about 2012. the Rapture will NOT happen then. I do not know when it will happen, but all the biblical prophesies regarding the end Times have not been fulfilled yet, and will not be by 2012

Beulah

I reject superstition and think the end of the world would either be from a meteorite or the sun growing too hot in a few billion years.

Here's the thing, no Christian (at least those familiar with the scripture) doesn't believe in the 2012 prophecy.

Not at all…..it is biblically impossible

Jesus says that he will come "as a thief in the night". What would be a better time than that?

Believers of RAPTURE , How does your belief that 2012 is the end of days fit into your rapture.?

Ok, so people are really worked up over 2012 being the "End of Days" as we know it.?

Were people this crazy over thinking the Year 2000 would be the end of the world? or what about the year 6 – 6 – 06 ? what are your thoughts and opinions on the year 2012?

It's just another thing to freak people out about. they say it's some sort of giant rock that's gonna kill all life on earth called planet x but all of the info on it is so faulty.

it's tomorrow, 9-9-9, the uk emergency number AND 666 upside down

I predict an H Bomb in New York – goodbye to anyone from there, and all the best.

HAHA THEY ARE STUPID THEY ARE GONA WAKE UP 2013 AND BE ALIVE HAHA THEN GET WORKED UP ABOUT ANOTHER DATE
HAHA
6-6-06 WAS MY 13 BIRTHDAY

2012 isn't the end because I firmly believe what the bible says is true. "the end will come like a thief in the night" meaning no one will know when the end will come.

I think that people like the feeling of fear and that 2012 is stupid. People need to get over themselves! Just like all the other years nothing is going to happen!

A lot of nonsense IMO

This time it might be for real

Ok, so people are really worked up over 2012 being the "End of Days" as we know it.?

What if 2012 is Really The End Times?

i know that everyone in a attempt to sound sane and intelligent shuns all these things but the Bible, Quran, Mayan, Some Scientists and many other people believe something will happen in 2012.

ahh primitive naked coked up savages can't predict the future dont worry about it

I'm gonna rub it in your face on December 22nd, 2012..

Then we die. *shrug*

At the rate BP's pumping oil into the gulf coast, it might even get pushed forward to 2011.

Where does the Bible say "thus saitheth God, '2012 is the end.'"?

But it isn't.

Where does the Bible say anything about 2012? Revelations just says that he is coming soon…which means there is not any more of a chance of the world ending in 2012 then when you finish reading this answer.

Nothing we can do about it, so there's no sense getting upset.

Actually, the Bible, Qu'ran, and the Mayan religion say nothing about end times in 2012. not that it would matter what their fantasy was. And science doesn't say there's going to be an end times in 2012 either. Just because a lot of people fall for a scary conspiracy theory doesn't make it true.

Then we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

And the majority of scientists all agree that there is no reason to believe impending disasters are in store for 2012.

There's not one shred of evidence to the contrary.

What if 2012 is Really The End Times?

Why do Christians smile so much when they talk about the End Times?

Has anyone noticed that some Christians get a little too gleeful when they talk about the end of times? they get downright giddy when they talk about all of the suffering that nonbelievers will endure. why do you think this is?

What Christians have you been talking to? I hope you know picketers don't count.
These so – called Christians you've been talking to are probably just too lazy to to do what the Bible really asks them to do and just want things to be convenient for them.
if they smile at another person's suffering then they do not know love, and in not knowing love, they do not know God. I apologize for these poor representations of my religion.

The end of the old way things were done for a new and better beginning . . . unfortunately the digital "transition" screwed alot of things up . . . When properties and people were divided and used as dumping grounds . . . nothing but wickedness and selfishness inspired them and now a few seem to have to pay a cost for many! Where's God for impartiality?

Gah..christians, they probably get all excited because they believe in this awesome afterlife that nobody can prove exists, but they believe it anyways because other brainwashed people believe it to be true, when in actuality it was just made up by humans…gah, nonsence to me.

no, that isn't why we smile. we smile because it will mean the end for this current misery. it will mean the dawning of the upright, it will be the day in which God Himself reigns within us and walks with us. how can you not feel gleeful about that?

Psalm 82/2 God takes his stand in the great assembly; He judges in the midst of the rulers. "How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Selah. Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. "they know nothing, they understand nothing. they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High. but you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler." Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your INHERITANCE.

that constitutes a cry for justice. after many years since the garden He has displayed for us the glory of his affection, but in one day the glory of his indignation will be expressed. because it has to be. God cannot and will not abide sin. our sinful delights are offenses to Him, laws He can't overlook us breaking forever and it is why God's natural way is to rebuke evil. the sad state is that many people at the time of destruction will cry in themselves, nobody warned me. but the documented proof is the legacy of those who devoted life and death to evangelize. there were warnings even before Jesus, before david. we are without an excuse. God has made Himself simple and plain for all of us. in eden we were sanctified though we were abolished, in calvary we were justified though we were guilty, and in zion we'll take part in his glory even though we are like worms before Him. but none of this applies to you if you choose within yourself to live by the idea that Jesus is anything but Lord.

the end talks more about final judgement and christians eternal salvation than suffering of nonbelievers. You just chose to focus on negative

They eagerly look forward to the day when they are saved and we perish in misery, and they look down upon us and go "Ha ha ha ha ha ha. nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah"

Because we know Heaven awaits us.
I have never seen a Christian get happy over
the suffering that non believers will endure.
You have a choice as we do.

Everyone likes to think they're better than others. That they are special in some way.

You do realize that's like saying Jews smile too much when talking about money. way to generalize.

Some of 'em are just plain nutters.

they are sick people duh

we don't. you idiot. go talk **** about some other religion, not this one.

Why do Christians smile so much when they talk about the End Times?

Do you think that this world is going to end in December 2012 according to the end of Mayan calendar?

No…biblically impossible

According to the end of the Mayan calender,the Mayan calender will restart.Mayans didn't say that it had to do with the end of the world.

No… scientifically almost impossible.

No. The Mayan calender ends on that day because they were wiped out by Spanish invaders before they could finish it.

Yes but look on the bright side….2012 is a leap year….that means that we all get 1 extra day on February 29……..thank you Jesus.

Another "end of the world" crap publicized by the internet.

I bet you a million dollars it won't end ;-)

no it is not

No sir! read the bible!
the world will end with an anti-christ!

Besides it can't end yet! I graduate 2013!!!

No why would a primitive culture which doesn't exist any more have a any inside information. They just made calendars up until that time it seemed enough back then

Well, the first thing to realize is the Mayan calendar doesn't say the world will end in December 2012.
The Long Count calendar is made of cycles – Dec 21 2012 is the end of one cycle (called a bak'tun) and the start of a new cycle (scholars have calculated the calendar out to about year 4772 with no sign of the end).

So, since that "prediction" is false, lets look at some of the others that are floating around:
– Planet X/Nibiru is supposed to hit us (but… it doesn't even exist).
– Pole shifts are supposed to destroy the magnetic field (but… pole shifts take thousands of years to happen, not a few years).
– The sun is supposed to align with the galactic plane (but… that happens every December, why would it be a problem in 2012?)
– The planets are all supposed to align (but… that can't happen ever, its not likely it will happen in 2012).

Its a hoax that started in 2003 – I am surprised that some people still don’t get that.
http://www.2012hoax.org/

If the Mayans could predict the future, why can't you?

I only believe in the predictions of sports illustrated models calendar.

2012
Scientists do not predict dates for the world to end. that is done by religious zealots like Harold "Quack of Doom" Camping, charlatans and lunatics. Some people are all three at once.

These predictions for 2012 are not science, they are anti-science, delusion, gibbering superstition and fraud posing as real knowledge for profit.

There is no Mayan "calendar" here. there is however a count of days that is supposed to fill up a "baktun" about 2012, probably in December 2012 but it could be years either side. We are not sure exactly when the count started. it appears to have been in August 3114BC by our system but it might have been earlier or later. in other words, the last day of the baktun (which is 144000 days long) might have passed and we didn't notice.

There is no prophecy of the EOTW or any "spiritual change" from the Mayans. anyone who claims that there is is a plain liar, fool or fraud. And there is no prophecy from any other culture, ancient or modern about 2012, except the fraudulent and sub-criminal recent one from confidence tricksters in our culture. Not even the descendants of the Mayans believe in this spurious drivel.

The prophecies for 2012 are lies based on lies. there are no alignments, no predicted solar flares, no rogue planets or any of the rest of the pseudo-scientific and fake-historical babble.

The entire thing is delusion, superstition and lies invented by the reality challenged and used by the ethically challenged to make money from the mentally challenged.

http://www.2012hoax.org

No I do not because no one know the day or the hour. however I know we are deep in the last days. therefore it could end before 2012. but who knows?

Do you think that this world is going to end in December 2012 according to the end of Mayan calendar?

Christians are you embarrassed when other xians point to the mayan belief of 2012 as a possible end of days?

because if the heathen mayan people got it right ..where did they get their information
if not from your god which one

Not at all embarrassed. the bible says that no-one but the Father knows when that day will be. It could be tomorrow or in several hundred years time. if it happens on the set date in 2012 which so many seem to wish to discuss these days we won't be here crowing about it anyway because the end will have come. however, if 2012 comes and goes and we are still using this site in 2013 that will be one topic of conversation which we will probably not have on here again. Yippeeeeeeee!

Maybe God sent some prophecy down to the Mayans too. Isn't it written in the bible somewhere that everyone gets the Word?

No I'm not embarrassed. They are the ones looking to other sources for prophecy rather than the Bible.
Also if they looked into what the Myans actuality believed they would see that it's not the end of the world. People watch a film and think they know it all, they should do some research into the matter before coming to a conclusion.

Actually I even looked a few months ago but you're the first to suggest it. You'rte also way behind because this rumor all but died out ages ago. Are you embarrassed?
Also, God has had contact with all people's, for sure. He was with Ishmael, ancestor of the muslims during his youth.
In Ezekiel God charged that other nations had lived more pleasing lives than his chosen people (the Israelites) had. He was furious and had given Ezekiel a dramatic word vision of himself in His glory. This type of vision (God on throne) is associated with devine judgment.
Jesus also said God does good for the saved and the sinner. BUT the Bible states Jesus will return like a thief in the night. It's not something you can ear mark on the calander.

Here we go, another person who believes that because the mayan calendar ends in 2012 the world will end. This nonsense has nothing to do with Christianity, nobody can tell you when the world will end.

Christians are you embarrassed when other xians point to the mayan belief of 2012 as a possible end of days?

Who thinks the world ending in 2012 will actually happen?

Please give me your reason of why you think 2012 will happen.

It isn't going to happen.. Think of all the silly scenarios people have come up with before… I mean come on what is the world going to end from? …..don't worry (: xxx

I agree with the top answer. People commit suicide from silly things like this so we shouldn't make it into a big scene.

It's stated in the Bible that no one will know the last day except God
And that the last day will be like a theif in the night, totally unexpected.

.. my reason ..

.. see Jake' answer ..

I think 2012 will happen because everyone in the world will kill themself because they're so sick of this question.

No, it won't happen it is based off of something completely stupid

I don't.

I don't see any reason that it will. Ever since humanity began people have been coming up with theories of when the world was going to end.

naaaa god wont allow the world to end…i think. well i hope not im only 14

I don't think that prediction will come true

no because if an asteroid would be near earth..ppl would have spotted it already

I'm so sick of seeing this question

Who thinks the world ending in 2012 will actually happen?

Doed anybody else wonder if all this in Egypt has anything to do with the End of Days?

Before I start, I believe in Evolution and that there is no God. But…..
….I can't help but think the End might be coming, in front of our very eyes. you see, it all started when i heard the Nostradamus predicted the End of The World at the Millennium. Obviously it didn't happen. But..I then heard that when Nostradamus was around – 500+ years ago – the calendar only had 10 months in it. January and February were added later. thats why, such as October being the 10th month. You'd normally associate 'oct' with 8 not 10. because it was the eighth month. I figured that maybe that could have put Nostradamus out if whack by about 12 years. then I heard about the Bible saying that a Holy War (A war in the Holy Land – Israel) will bring about Armageddon. then I heard about the Mayan Prophecy in 2012. then I thought Kim Jong-Il was going to start the proceedings with his Nuke Bombs. I wonder now, if its all going to happen in the Middle East. If the current 'Democratic Revolution' thats happened in Tunisia and now Egypt spreads towards Israel, the whole of the Middle East will de-stabilise. Egypt has a massive hand in the very existence if Israel. If it falls, so will we. Eventually.
Oh yeah, my question…am I the only one thinking like this?

No.

Take about 20 minutes and read up on the history of Egypt (as well as the rest of the world) — you'll find there have been thousands and thousands of conflicts and uprisings there, not a one of which resulted in the "end of the world."

And if you don't believe there's a god, why are you worried about silly superstitious stories about one?

Peace.

Nope, it is just politics in Egypt.
Mubarik needs to step down before he dies of old age and they have no good way to hand power over to his successor even if they had a proper selection process to choose him.

I expect that the election that is coming up in September will be very interesting.

No, many people are aware how dangerous Israel is. it is only the beginning, as the chaos increases the riots will get worse accordingly. If WW 111 gets of the ground then it will be started by Israel and I can assure you that I will not be supporting them. If it starts then it will have the potential of finally destroying this planet and all on it and it just goes to show how pathetic religions are.

One of the signs b4 the day of judgement in islam:
"The inhabitants of Egypt and Sham will kill their ruler and his commands…"
(Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Al-Qawl al-Mukhtasar fi `Alamat al-Mahdi al-Muntazar, p. 49)

Other minor signs coming true prophesized 1400 years ago:
http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/jud…

No. it is an oppressed impoverished people with a proud history of intellectual prowess fighting against their oppressor.

It has nothing to do with any prophecy – biblical, mayan or that old French guy. All of them are demonstrably wrong.

No, there is no reason to think that people rising up against a repressive regime is a sign of the "end times".

Nostradamus was only is "successful" because his prophecies are very vague and people are willing to believe nonsense.

There is no Mayan prophecy about 2012. That was fabricated by quack archaeologist Michael D. Coe when he deliberately misinterpreted the Mayan calender in order to sell more copies of his book.

All things are a sign of the end of times. Things will just become progressively worse until God retuns. We are on the downside of that roller coaster. We are 2011 years closer to the end. whenever that happens to be.

Egyptian history factored in during the time of Moses..it has no significance today. All that can be said of Egypt is already written…and its was not pretty.The plagues,drowning of Pharaoh & his hordes.

Maybe when 2012 comes and goes without incident superstitious people and theists will realize that the whole end of the world thing isn't the only thing they've reading too far into.

I doubt the end is coming and were all going to die but it IS possible
also egypts having a revolution its really interesting (cuz there leaders a total dick)

france had the same happening years ago
america in the 60s
india and pakistan is ongoing

Nostradamus has predictoins up to the year 7500 I have a book with all of them in it

Crap happens in all countries all the time. The end of times will have things happening like this and natural disasters ALL at once. We will know and not question it.

I think it might be the end of Mubarek's days – in office. other than that, no.

Nope life goes on with or without the human race. But some people tend to forget that

No, I sure don't.

A part of it. More to come

No, there are lots of other people, casting around for random events to support their desire to see an apocalyptic end-of-the-world happen in their lifetime. The "prophecies" of Nostradamus have been twisted and stretched so far out of shape that they mean virtually anything now. The reason the year only had "ten months" was that no one bothered to schedule anything in the middle of winter, so January and February existed, but no one paid much attention to them. Kim Jong Il has not actually been able to start a war despite his efforts. as for Tunisia and Egypt, they have been under the control of totalitarian dictators for decades and the people are tired of them. Egypt is NOT "the Holy Land". Obviously you are grasping at straws to keep your violent dream alive. it will never happen, but that doesn't mean that you won't continue to see more "signs" in every political uprising or natural disaster that comes along.

Okay well you have two options here friend:

Option one:

Realize that Nostradamus' "predictions" were so broad and general they could have been about anything. Also realize that the bible is the same book that claims that the whole earth was flooded and one geriatric and his family managed to save all of the species on earth by putting them on a boat, and is therefore nonsense. Also realize that people have been predicting the end of the earth for millenia: they have been wrong. in fact Matthew seems to indicate that Jesus' supposed second coming would have happened in his lifetime. Matthew 24:34 says "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

Option two:

Freak out for no reason and sell all your material possessions to me (ultra cheap of course) to buy weapons and a fall-out shelter.

Personally, I would benefit more if you chose option two.

As a side note: if the destruction of man and the planet does occur within 10 generations (about 300 years) it will be caused by man itself, not some imaginary deity.

Whats happening in Egypt at this time is part of BIBLE prophecy.yes this current government in Egypt will fall because of her treaties with Israel.REALIZE THAT the Egyptians will consort with many other Arab countries and Russia and attack Israel, and think to destroy her.now you wont believe my words now yet when this happens and it well happen soon only 1/6 of that army will be left.The whole world will know there is a GOD in Israel, and he fights for his children.think of it.Israel defeats Russia Egypt Iran and many others.All will know the POWER OF THE WORD OF GOD AT THAT TIME.now that's nothing as seven years after that an army of 200,000,000 plus shows up in the valley of Megedo and is completely wiped out.by a dozen Israeli soldiers and there GOD. then shall all the world know there is a GOD in Israel and his name is JESUS.now there is a lot more to these prophecies than I wrote here.Yet when these things come to pass there shall be no doubt as to the truth in the BIBLE. THANK YOU your servant david

No, not really. The middle east has always been a place of war. Of course democracy has spread there, we've sent people there for the past 10 years or so.

Not just military personnel but civil contractors. They spread our ideas and culture.

BUT BE WARNED, EVERYONE!

Look at a map of Egypt and what do you see?

They watch over the canal beyond the Red Sea. this canal is a trade route used for OIL!

If Egypt destabilizes then that canal will be lost and the price of GAS will shoot up to 7 dollars a gallon!

I bet you 7 dollars that if that region doesn't end up okay then the USA will go to war.

WRONG. October was always the tenth month, but at the same time the eighth month. it was 10th because the first two months were always there at the time, known solely as 'winter'. So his prediction is still wrong. The Christians have been whining about the end of days since the 19th century, when many French people suddenly turned to Atheism. The mayans never predicted the end of the world, their calendar simply ended, meaning they either ran out of stone, decided that writing their calendar 500 years into the future was enough, or, they were all murdered before they could work out the rest of the calendar, which,in fact, happened. The Middle east destabilizing will have consequences, yes, but Israel falling has absolutely no effect on most countries.

The biggest issue that could arrive, would be if Saudi Arabia collapsed, leaving a LOT of oil to be inaccessable (who's going to dig for a flammable substance when bombs are landing all around you)
Putting the US in crisis, the fall of the US putting China in crisis, the fall of China, etc.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut probably that's not going to happen anyway.

No…some of the signs of that are decreasing morality (Gay Pride, for example) and Satan ruling the churches, both of which are happening now…it has been revealed from the Bible, in these last times, that Judgment Day is May 21st, 2011, with world annihilation (God destroying it with fire) on October 21st, 2011. in between those dates it will be utter horror and no salvation for the unsaved left behind.

http://www.wecanknow.com/

Pray now for mercy and salvation while there is still time.

Read. read, read the Bible (Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

Doed anybody else wonder if all this in Egypt has anything to do with the End of Days?

Why do christians think the world is going to end in 2012 if this is a mayan prophecy?

I know the world won't end this day, but if anyone here is a competent astrologer you would now that major changes will start taking place this day. The planets are lining up in the strangest of ways. Scroll down to about a quarter of the way down the link to see the planetary aspects occuring that day.
http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm

umm we don't just because a small percentage of people {who I doubt are real christians} may doesn't mean "all" do.

We are in the last days.

WE DON"T!!! We believe that if our society keeps doing such stupid things like producing movies like the Zohan and doing horrible sins that God will come down and destroy Earth. I mean think about it. The worlds decent civilization is declining!!!!

It's really beyond me why Christians would use Mayan prophecies to predict the end of the world. I can only imagine it's for the same reason they use pagan holidays for the death and birth of their saviour.

they need to stop watching to much television.

I'm christian and I don't believe this, I believe my Lord Jesus when he said no man knows only our father knows, no one else, I believe the bible :) aahaha

I do not understand it but if the world does not end then I will be laughing at the lot who said that the world was going to end. just as I did to those who said it would end in 2000.

It's not Christians promoting 2012, it's religious con artists cashing in on peoples fear and ignorance. They are spiritual drug dealers, not Christians.

"Christians" who proclaim that the Earth will end on 2012, or any other exact date, either do not know, or do not believe the Bible.
Matthew 24:42-44. NO man knows the hour.

we don't…and we didn't think the world was going to end in 2000, either…the mayan calendar ends in 2012…which tells me the mayans never got around to creating a calendar for 2013, that's all…astrology is a load of bunkum

No end http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vg…
Just for you to know the truth
There have to be a purpose for life otherwise we will miss the peaceful path of happiness so we want to be just better everyday
So
Spiritually,
What is God? ,
What’s makes God as god? ,
What is God’s Power? ,
For all sort of these questions, I have very limited understanding so let me give you the point. well, just try to know, what’s makes God as god, the Power, isn’t it? So what the power can do? Ah? well, it can give the ability to organise all things and it can give the ability to separate everything and most importantly, the Ability to control everything, isn’t it? Isn’t it Good? Ah? So, what I try to say here is, from my hard study and research effort with the help from god, I realized that the ability to control everything, the Power of God is gradually increased in the full amount to use so, The Power of God is always the omnipotent and existed among everything. And The God now is always the same omnipotent for us, who is organised us and we are growing towards perfection. The perfection is the final stage, not the end. And The Power of God, the Ability is the reward for us to control everything in a proper manner, like the true God of goodness. If god always perfect in perfection then there have to be beginning and end for that progress. So there is no end or beginning for all things so we cannot get anything from nothing. And
How could that be possible to be perfect in perfection always, ah…? no way the perfection of god comes first or the growth towards perfection. there is no end and there is no beginning and so the Ability is for the love of Joy And
~ LOVE IS THE ABILITY ~
we have to lift it up little by little towards Perfection.

If you are humble, please… Pray to know the truth from true God by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit with great faith and. Good in Bad & Bad in Good so the values is most important. God gave us the rights to do what is right for you and sometimes, things can be right in your point of view but wrong in Public point of view so
Basically, just pray about it for the Good answer and try to do the God's will first always
And
I have true testimony of true God
Please, just try to understand the fundamental…

If you think, why so much trouble and pain in this world…? then there is only one reason, without pain, no pleasure and without pleasure, no pain. So without them, we cannot enjoy this life so always we need them in our development towards the perfection of God. So-so you use pain and pleasure instead of pain and pleasure use you. I mean the vision of your future should be clear & it have to pull you rather than you have to push so you must link a lot of pleasure in order to succeed in the best job. when you feel strong enough link a lot of pleasure in your subconscious mind. And your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
And
It is Wonderful… wonderful nature for us by the true… God. And
we all make mistakes so it is hard to look for star in daylight. So just in faith… it is possible. Like that the faith in true God. And If you think, even expert can be wrong then you have to make the fine research in all most everything so it is hard and some time, it is impossible to achieve so why we need inappropriate action to find the owner of higher power? SO,
So, just try to understand, because of Lack of faith in true God, we do not have the great gift of understanding of things so
Just understand this please.
All things are spiritually first, to govern by God with glory so closely, have a look at this world of wonders of yours and then you know the truth, when you listen to your real voice and then Having a strong desire to do the best every day then stick with the best to do your best. And most importantly, try to be grateful for what you have now and try to know where you come from to have the great gift of understanding and then, have the faith to become the best winner in your life. And this is the best meaning of happy life.
And
The low of mercy cannot rob the low of justice so God provided the way to our salvation to overcome our sin so Jesus Christ sacrifice is much needed to return to live with God, because God is perfect in perfection so Jesus Christ is our savior to pay our punishment of our sin so-so Because of the perfect love of god for you. So God gave Jesus Christ for us ~ FOR US ~
Well,

It is the time to make the great decision.
Good luck.

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Whether you are christian, no Christian, real christian, true christian, false christian, virtual christian, imaginary christian…….whatever…you should not believe in this prophecy….world coming to an end….
Thank you for giving this dreamful website….we should admire Mayans….I sincerely wish that the astronomical situation in the sky will match the Mayan predictions…….

It is not only Christians who have heard this Mayan prediction of the world ending in 2012. but do not be scared. I assure you that the world will not end on 2012 December 21 but it will end one day. Nostradamus’ prediction of when the earth will end is far into the future, past about 3700. He still has many prophecies that are not fulfilled yet. Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.

The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a new Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia). it will be the end of a Mayan calendar cycle to start a new cycle.

In the book of Revelation, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. has this occurred already since the time of Jesus? Not yet. That will still come. those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

But there is something that is certain—and that is our physical death. this is what we should prepare for. it may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. it will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find him, follow His commandments and remain in him until our last dying breath.

This is all that we have to do. it is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to Hell. this is very scary – to live in Hell forever. If we knew him and loved him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. this is the survival kit that we should have.

What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war. this calamitous war will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular. The Spratly Islands lie on the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines. The Holy Spirit told us that the troubles in the Philippines is like the wick of a lamp. once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow. He told us about this prophecy more than a decade ago. Please read what is happening in the Philippines now. Spratly Islands which is being claimed wholly or partly by six countries including China is in the news and considered a tinderbox, a flash point. it is very rich in oil and gas resources, more than the reserve of Kuwait. The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen. These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tuey Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled), Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us. If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

Why do christians think the world is going to end in 2012 if this is a mayan prophecy?

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I'm trying to do some research about the end times. I have been reading about the galactic alignment which is supposed to occur in december 2012, and im not sure what exactly I should think or believe. I looked up scriptures from the Bible, and one in particular is always on my mind when I am wondering about the end times; "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew 26:34)

That scripture makes me think that it would be impossible that the galactic alignment in 2012 would be the end of time, because it says nobody knows about that day or hour!

So if anybody has any information or opinion on the matter, please share!

If you are a Christian then the verse, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." is what you should believe because that's what GOD intended the answer to be for those searching for the end times…..Scientists, (some) when determining scientific events, both past and present and usually accentuate that most of their findings are factual rather than theorized, it that is a word, find that the scriptual version of what is the end of times is not fact based and therefore should not be told as fact. I don't personally disbelieve in anything Scientific, in fact or theory but God will always be my FIRST choice when looking for any answer that is scriptual.

For the umteenth time:

God initiates everything on God's timing not ours

There is no scripture supporting this, although one can misinterpret anything just about anyway

Revelations predicted the end of history to occur about three years after it was published, so what do you think?

Chill, if you're that freaked out pray then do some research not searching for anything which will confirm or lend credence to someone elses theory.

When Jesus said that not even the son knew the day or the hour do you think that maybe when he got to be at the right hand side of the Father he was maybe privy to a bit more info so to speak. Behold the heavens declare his glory, and how did the Magi know roughly where to go. what are we told to watch and pray for ? what about wormwood? I dont know it is all very confusing I suppose.

I agree with you. 2012 comes from the ending of the Mayan calendar, which marks the ending of an "age." do some research on the Mayan calendar. I think something very cataclysmic will happen on Dec. 22, 2012, but no, I don't think the world will end.

galactic alignment? come on every single year, the earth and sun are aligned with the centre of the universe. the earth rotates around the sun and one day every year you can draw a straight line from sun-> earth->centre of universe.

Thank you sincerely for your research. you show once again, that the Bible and Christianity has nothing to do with December 2012. some people keep making a connection where there is none. again thanks.

There is no galactic alignment. Don't you think NASA with its billions of dollars would recognize that and tell the government to tell the people to get ready for the next 4 years?

the Holy Bible, from Holy God, also says along the lines of that only God knows when things will happen. thank you Holy God!

the end of the world in 2012 came from a mayan research a long time ago. we checked and it happened to be wrong, so u dont need to worry about it

Some people think 2012 will be an age of enlightenment rather than universal death.

check out voice of evangelism….perry stone , and his teaching program mannafest on youtube…. he has many videos on there… it nay confuse you further but I found it helpful!

hey there , thanx for your research ,
perhaps i also got some resources , but it's top secret …
we can share lagolas_rohan@yahoo.com

the world ended in 2000, remember.

You answered your own question, no one knows!!

The bible is exactly correct. No One know except the father when the end will come…so enough with this 2012 stuff.

Kampai! *drinks* It's all BS.

i think maybe they just stoped doing the calender because 2012 was far away;

There is not going to be an "end of times"…. at least not the way you think…. (lets hope;)

There will be no galactic alignment. the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is tilted with respect to the line between the Sun and the centre of the galaxy. This means the Sun, Earth and the centre cannot line up.

The closest they get happens to be about the times of the solstices, which are on 21 June and 21 December every year. yes, twice every year. the difference from a perfect line is close to 6 degrees.

Now the centre of the galaxy is so far away that it's effect on the Earth is quite small, even though it may be the equivalent of millions of Suns in mass. the gravitational pull between two objects is proportional to the product of their masses divided by the SQUARE of the distance between them. Compared to that of the Sun, the effect of the galactic centre is minuscule. Compared to that of the Moon, which is biggish and quite close, it is a belch in a hurricane.

Now get out your trigonometry tables and look up the sine of 6 degrees. does not amount to much, does it? If we don't notice anything when the gravitational pull is 6 degrees off an exactly straight line, we would not notice anything if it was exactly straight either.

So tales of disaster from galactic centres are all hooey, invented by people who do not know (or disguise the fact that they do know) what they are talking about, and told to people who might know, but forget.

End times, tribulation and the rapture were invented by the Millerites in the USA in the 19th century, apparently based on a special reading of Revelation and more recently a deliberately falsified view of social conditions. Most Christian sects regard the ideas as just wrong, others say they are heresy, and you are quite right about Matthew 26:34.

So both science and religion say the 2012 scare is false.

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