There is just such a big, long list of predictions for this year, and for the date of December 21, 2012.
Many of these prophecies seem to be related.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
You have to admit that the number of prophecies and predictions for this year makes it unlike other "doomsday" events.
IM SCARED .
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
If I get myself and some of my friends to say that in 2011 that everyone's gonna die, does that make it true? I guess it does if i get millions of people to talk about it
It is very interesting, I've read about everything to do with it lol
<<Do you find it at least interesting that there are so many converging predictions for 2012?>>
No. I find all the groundless garbage dragged together, from various directions, to be equally boring. It's no surprise whatsoever, that a page of groundless garbage suggested for the year 2012, should contain groundless garbage pertaining to the year 2012. A clue to that is provided by the year mentioned in the title.
Should you decide to visit a rubbish tip, then I predict you'll find rubbish there.
No, I don't find that interesting at all. I see it as a simple case of people trying to confirm their own superstitions. just like every other time the world was supposed to end, or the rapture to happen, or whatever.
What I find interesting is how much energy this hoax is maintaining. YouTube, the History Channel, and now the movie by Sony Pictures are all fueling the hoax for financial gain, and it is interesting that no matter how many times the "science" behind it is debunked, it just keeps on truckin'.
NASA has tried. Scientists in general have tried. Non-scientists with a good understanding of science have tried. all to no avail.
It is interesting that despite all this rational discussion, people cling to blatantly false logic, and false science, so that they can either legitimately be excited about something, or so they can deliberately mislead the young or the gullible for their own nefarious purposes.
The plain truth is that this hoax does not stand up to any scientific scrutiny whatsoever.
I do not. it is extremely innacurate to say that many prophecies converge on 2012. the cycle of the Maya calendar ends on 12-21-2012, and all the other prophecies are simply based on that date.
The Maya did not make any predictions for 2012. They just had a calendar to keep track of time, and arbitrarily set the beginning point 3000 years in their past and the end point 2000 years in their future. at the end of the cycle (2012), the calendar just rolls back to zero like an odometer, and one inscription says that a God may descend to Earth at that time.
New Age prophecies about awakening conciousness or destruction are not based on anything, they just take the Maya date and attach significance to it. the I Ching makes no sense, and the guy who came up with it intentionally changed his calculations so that it would match up with the Maya date. Galactic alignment, geomagnetic reversal, and other ideas are all just things that people made up and then attached to the Maya 2012 date because it already existed.
So in conclusion, I do not see any prophecies converging around the 2012 date. I see that the Maya cycle turns over on that date (which is not a prophecy, its just how the calendar works), and a bunch of crazy ideas that are just borrowing the Maya date instead of predicting any date themselves.
1. Mayan Calendaer
The Mayan calendar ends on Dec 21, 2012 and RESTARTS on Dec 22, 2012.
2. new Age Theories
New Age Theories? are you kidding me?
3. Geomagnetic Reversal
Geomagnetic Reversal is only just in its early stages. it won't actually occur until hundreds or even thousands of years from now. plus, Geomagnetic Reversal has occurred many, many times in the history of this planet. It's in the gelogic record. And, just that fact that a record of it is still there means that it has never caused a planet-wide catastrophy.
4. Planet Nibiru
Again, are you kidding me? Nibiru has been disproven.
5. Galactic (Black Hole) Alignment
Even the Wikipedia article you cite says: "apart from the fact noted above that the 'galactic alignment' predicted by Jenkins already happened in 1998, the Sun's apparent path through the zodiac as seen from Earth does not take it near the true galactic center, but rather several degrees above it. even if this were not the case, Sgr A* is 30,000 light years from Earth, and would have to be more than 6 million times closer to cause any gravitational disruption to our Solar system."
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This is a "pile on" effect. Originally there was just one prediction, the end of the Mayan calendar cycle. Then all the crazies in the world decided to get on the bandwagon, and tailored their "predictions" to fit the 2012 December 21 date. twenty nonsensical "predictions" doe not make a fact!
here are a few theories, none of which hold any scientific basis, or are overdramatized, or are real, but harmless
Geomagnetic Reversal- As i've said in many many many of my other answers, they dont switch overnight, they take thousands of years, about 500,000 to be precise. the magnetic field weakens but does not switch off completely, there is no evidence as to a connection between a Geomagnetic Reversal and a Mass extinction, and secondly HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD SOMEONE KNOW ABOUT THE DATA A MAGNETIC FIELD REVERSAL CAN HAPPEN.
Galactic Alignment- Im not even sure what this means anymore, so basically the Earth would align with a Black Hole (or the Sun will as well), blocking the radiation received from the Black Hole. to me that sounds like a good thing, but somehow people have said, well it could be good radiation, sounds stupid to me.
Solar Flares- many people have stated that the Sun will blow up a huge Solar Flare, well from the last thing i've heard the Earth is protected by this, by the Magnetic Field, the Atmosphere and the O-Zone layer from all ends of the Suns spectrum, the biggest in History, the Carrington Event, caused no Mass Extinction, and i dont think the Sun can unleash a monstrous, doomsday flare anyway.
Asteroids- we know nearly all of the near earth objects, there trajectory, there orbits, and there most likely future, they are dangerous and sometimes i worry about them but the simple fact is the most dangerous at the moment is Aphobis, and that isnt a risk until 2026, 2036 i think, and there is a 1 in 44,000 chance of a collision.
Tsunamis, Earthquakes- it would have to be one huge Earthquake to destroy the planet, impossible without an external influence.
Planet X (Nibiru, Wormwood, Brown Dwarf)- this defies all laws of Planetary Motion, if there was a huge Planet out there, there would be extremely big influences on the outside and Planets and we would see that, for Pete's sake, we can tell what type of a Star is 3 billion light years away, and some god knows way we've missed a huge Planet, Star, Asteroid whatever, right in our next door, sorry no i dont buy that for a Second.
The world is not going to end, it is a hoax to get attention for the film, the plot is extremely poorly done, but i've only read the Wikipedia Entry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)
i,m a skeptic all right….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC…
Only if they wouldn't be:
1. Contradicting each other.
2. Based on fiction. and fiction includes blatantly wrong translations of ancient texts.
Just to quote Dieter Hildebrand: People, eat ****, millions of flies can't be wrong!
It is not at all unlike all others in the past. Most "prophecies" have been just moved to 2012, either from the beginning after the Maya claim was created in 1984 (For ex Timewave zero), or after an earlier doomsday passed without anything happening (Nancy Lieder).
The plural of "bullshit" is not "data."
You ever think that if all you do all day is cut people's hearts out, you find interest in the sky and notice patterns? if you say that it is in the bible, it is not. it says that only the Father knows. I look at logic. Is it really logical that a group of people can know when the world will end thousands of years in the future? I hear all the time about star alignments. you say that someone killed someone because this star and this star and this other star were lined up. you ever think he did it out of his own head? it is illogical. And it is wikipedia. plus every generation has thought that they were the last.
No, it is a simple false proof by repetition argument: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof…
"many of these prophecies seem to be related."
So? A lot of rumors about Santa Claus seem to be related. What's that supposed to prove?
The world may end or it may not. it could end tomorrow. no one knows the future. if someone claims to know the future, they would be able to choose the correct lottery numbers the following week and become a millionaire by knowing what the numbers were, not by making a lucky guess.
It's interesting at how many are interested.
I don't find it interesting at all, since the "predictions" are all bogus nonsense.
Okay, so lets say that all of these predictions are real, that they aren't fabrications by a small number of misguided nutjobs.
So the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar says a new cycle begins on 12/21/2012 – so what?
So a galactic alignment occurs that date – so what, it happens every year, not really that big a deal is it?
If you read some of your link, even the people that are being quoted as 2012 doomsayers themselves claim its all hype.
"This view has been promulgated by History Channel which, beginning in 2006, aired "Decoding the past: Mayan Doomsday Prophecy", based loosely on John Major Jenkins' theories but with a tone he characterized as "45 minutes of unabashed doomsday hype and the worst kind of inane sensationalism". it was co-written by a science fiction author".
Sorry, there is absolutely no scientific evidence of any kind that 12/21/2012 (or any other date that year) is the end of the world.
But if you want to believe the world will end in 2012, does that make you feel better?
2012 Skeptics: Do you find it at least interesting that there are so many converging predictions for 2012?